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Kamala Harris vs Mike Johnson: Inside the Speaker's 'Institutional Arsonists' Jibe
Kamala Harris and Mike Johnson. (Image: X)
The former vice president Kamala Harris set off a firestorm this week after suggesting on a call with left-wing nonprofit Emerge that Democrats should seriously consider expanding the Supreme Court, pushing for DC and Puerto Rico statehood, and rethinking the Electoral College the next time they hold power. House Speaker Mike Johnson did not take it quietly.
What Did Harris Actually Say?
Speaking on the call, Harris framed her comments around what she described as a need to fight back against what she sees as systematic 'cheating' by Republicans. "We've got to neutralize this red state cheating," she said. "There's a brutality at play on the other side, and a ruthlessness. And we need to play to win."
"Let’s invite ideas, for example, that are about Supreme Court reform, including the notion of expanding the court. Let’s invite a discussion about how do we push for statehood for Puerto Rico and D.C.; how are we thinking about the Electoral College," Harris said.
On redistricting specifically, she argued that recent Supreme Court and state court decisions were being used to suppress minority voices through the backdoor of politics. "What they have done with this decision, by saying that the politics of redistricting is okay, is they are back-dooring racism through politics," she said.
What Set This Off?
Harris made her remarks in the wake of two significant legal setbacks for Democrats in the redistricting battle ahead of November's midterms. The Supreme Court recently moved to limit the use of race in drawing electoral districts, a ruling that effectively eliminated several Black-majority seats held by Democrats across Southern states. Shortly after, the Virginia Supreme Court struck down a Democratic-friendly gerrymander on procedural grounds. Both losses coming in quick succession appeared to fuel Harris's call for structural reform.
What Did Johnson Say?
Johnson was not having it. He came out swinging, describing Harris and those pushing similar ideas as "institutional arsonists." He argued that proposing to pack the Supreme Court or dismantle other institutions simply because your side lost is not just wrong but genuinely dangerous.
"You don't just blow up the system when you lose," he said. He added that for a former vice president and presidential candidate to make such suggestions was "outrageous," warning that the approach represented a reckless gambit with consequences that go well beyond any single election.
Why Does This Matter?
The clash between Harris and Johnson reflects a broader fight playing out across the country right now over who controls the maps that determine congressional power. With midterms approaching and redistricting cases moving through courts at a rapid pace, the stakes on both sides could not be higher. Harris is essentially arguing that Democrats need to stop playing by rules that she believes are already rigged against them. Johnson's counter is that changing the rules when you lose is how democracies fall apart.
Neither side is showing any sign of backing down.
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